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heysey · Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 1447

bullocks!

Children are the most genuis creature to learn trillion languages, if encourages.
Now children always speak their MOTHER TONGUE!....for closeness with the mother(love,caring)
WHY ON EARTH IT'S ONLY SESLWA KIDS THAT PARICULARY HAD SUCH ISSUE..... Laughing

Camerum's quote that they were the Canadian's in Africa....cause black always need to feel Westernize....when I told him that in Sesel we speak three languages, eversince he kept shut.

Now Sesel had been bless to be a trilingual country... Razz

why does a kid born abroad to mother of kreol status,doesn't encourage her/his child to learn her tongue. Shocked

it's all excused....hence when those creature goes home they don't know how to express themselves with their granparents who doesn't speak fluent English or french cause they couldn't stand up with those fluent.
My little neighbour is 18month, she's a cartoon addict like every kids....and her best word in English is shit!,bye bye.
Her mother is Ghanian a real bushy woman, who speak to her in her language and she does understand...though she doesn't speak....Pediatrician encourage mother's to be a role model in the life of their littles, therefore languages is the key in a child developement...

Maeva I'll disagree with you that Sesel children doesn't play with other children with kreol heritage....speak with your children yourself...and they will understand the minimum..... Choube quoute that her children does, but it's difficult though to understand, threfore she ' try.....

And remember we're trilingual and it's normal I believe to introuduce different languages while speaking, cause people end to used easy word to explian themselves...hence Kreol had the facility, and kreole dialect doesn't had such a big vocabulary. Laughing

maeva · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Isi, laba

Heysey pa pou tro fer vantar mon ban piti zot koz trwa langaz enkli kreol avek, sa enn ki pli ti i pa ankor kapab repon byen an kreol me i konpran tou, ler granmaman, tantin ek tonton in vin vakans napa oken problem konminiksyon mem monn mari i koz kreol, mem si mon ban famiy i pa la ou tann li pe dir ek marmay "annou ale ou byen vin isi" alor ki zot a dir mwen.
Byensir sa i depan lo zesfor ki sa manman i devret ou bezwen fer pou ki son ban piti i kapab debouy ler zot ariv Sesel, mon konn osi en lot Seselwaz ki son ban piti zot koz tre tre byen kreol mem si zot viv a lentranze.
Pa fini sa ban pti latet ler zot ankor tipti zot kapab apran bokou ketsoz alor ban paran i devret profit sa lokasyon pou fer sa ban zanfan aprann maksimem posib ordinerman avan laz 5an en zanfan i kapab aprann bokou.
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heysey · Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 1447

Now maeva! as the taxi driver in Sesel would have quote with the tourist passengers.....DON'T TALK. Laughing

Congratualations!

Payeye · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 1528

Maeva! Mon kontan ler mon tande ki oun kapab montre ou zanfan kreol ek de lot langaz san dout en sa angle. Mon tya kontan ki mon 3 zanfan ti apran kreol, be maleresman zot kon zis en de mot ek ekspresyon.

Tou le zour plizyer langaz y disparet e en madam sorti St Lucia ti dir mwan y annan bokou zot laba ki nepli koz kreol akoz zot war angle pli "cool". Y fer lapenn tann ketsos koumsa, en gro domaz!
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Beautecreole · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 322

I have no issues where people choose to speak or teach any other languages either themselves or their kids as we should allow people choices if we are to live in this global village although I personally have a hard time to understand how some people can proudly explain how they have lost touch with speaking their language which they were taught at birth yet can mainatin a foreign language which they learnt parallel to Creole..somehow I feel some people feels that speaking creole lessen ones status . I however feel that since it is the SPPF government which promoted Creole in schools and the working environment something which I am really all for they should have a regulation /discipline which need to be respected by default when it comes to speeches done by a Government representative at formal events .It should be done in pure Creole unless there is no Creole word for it .
This is really a Government regulation here in Quebec where French is being preserved.

While in Seychelles last year I assisted a school event sponsored by the Ministry of Education congratulating students in every schools who has had the highest grades in different subjects of learning. The Opening speech was done by a representative from the Ministry of education..and right away the latter started his speech as follows : " premyermen mon oule welcome tous ban parents qui vyne assister sa event pour recompense nou ban students quinne fer pli byen dans diferen subjects...etc...
I felt such speech was so be-littling towards our local language which is being promoted and even worst the speech was done by a high government official hence should have shown more respect to what the government believes in...talk about patrioticism this is where patrioticsm needs to be addressed...

Bonjujju · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 230 Location: High Desert NM

It is very easy to forget your native tongue if you have no one around to speak too. If you don't have a chance to use it, you do lose it. I've had to relearn kreol twice, it's easier now with the internet to stay connected but not so much in seattle in 1985. I've very proud of my language and I'll be the first to admit I squeeze in an english word in a kreol sentence when not knowing the right word to use. But I've have a good laugh since this topic began, I've been checking out SBC on youtube and my belly hurts from laughing. They sound like me, but I'm doing the best I can.
And it's hard as hell to teach kids a language if only one parent speaks it. My two know a few words, the cool thing is when we go home my brother's kids speak English/kreol to them and they pick it up fast. His kids improves in their english too during their time together. I think it's pretty cool how the little ones, who don't know English or Kreol, make up their own language. They do a lot of pointing. So cute, that's how kreol can to be right?! Wink

heysey · Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 1447

Tips - Listen to kreole music....I used to buy cassettes, in the odds days and mini/cd's then,now with MP3/4 the Ipod...Iphone...I'm always with my kreole music in my ears... Wink

Bonjujju · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 230 Location: High Desert NM

I do too, its the only music on my ipod. Music is about the only thing I buy when I go back home. my poor husband is so used to it, he has it playing even when he's by himself. He's gone full kreol! You may thing I'm crazy, but I use it as a reward, I save it for special times during my day ie.. while I exercise, cook or clean, which is at least once a day. It's my most prized possesion, I would be lost without my kreol music! I still have a few cassette I will never get rid of, Ton Pa, Jean Ally, and the first Jean Marc which I got as a gift like 16 yrs ago from my brother. I just need to find a cassette player since I couldn't find them on cds. Don't laugh my kids does enough of that.

heysey · Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 1447

Exactly....that's really keep one intouch to the motherland....but bear in mind that whoever comes to visit always complain, mann! ki sa bann vye sanson ki ou ekoute.... Laughing

I cant be bother.... Razz

Lately I've got Marie Cecile Medor...oh that was really something I've needed it in my collection, though there are still a few that I need to get of those oldies...

I pity your surrounders.... Laughing

My partner is American too...love the music, but sometime goes oh no.....not Seashells....please.. Laughing

Bonjujju · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 230 Location: High Desert NM

yea the funny thing is, home feels empty if there's no kreol music and the smell of good home cook meals with a kreol twist. It just got to be. We just moved in this state about six months ago and I think my neighbors thought I was Hispanic of some kind til I'm sure they heard my music. My neighbor on to the right came on a friendly mission to find out exactly where the hell I was from, then we played the 20 questions game. I think she left feeling more puzzled that ever. As of now we are in the process of buying a home on 2 acres of land, now I can play my stuff even louder for the chickens outside to hear! Smile

When we first walked into the house, my husband said, I can already here kreol music in here! 1Point Hubby!

maeva · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Isi, laba

Sa i vreman la ont si en O ofisye dan Minister lendikasyon in fer son diskour koumsa, kwa?, in oublye konman dir "Byenveni".
Antouleka mon war sa i ensiportab pou kelken ki viv Sesel e ki koz koumsa.
Pa dir ki mon tro strik, akoz mon konpran tre byen ki Seselwa ki viv a lentranze zot gany enpe difikilte pou koz byen kreol akoz la zot pa pe gany sa sans pou viv dan la vi kreol toulezour. Me sa problem i gany korize enn fwa ki i ariv Sesel apre de trwa zour.
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Dreamer · Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Posts: 1

I couldn't find any place to introduce myself, so presumably that is not the idea.

I don't know if I would understand the Kreol were I to go back to the Seychelles now, as I am really from the aaaannncient days of the lovely land. But, I can still read it as it is written. Was not written, back in the day.

I came across this site while looking for information on John Thorpe who drowned at Grande Anse in 1961. I find reference to him, but no reference to the man drowned with him, who - if I remember - was the attorney general, or some such title. The boys were playing on a 'li-lo' and were not really in any danger. I think the other man who drowned was a Boulle - but am not sure.

So, in that way, I wandered into the AKS site.

Let me try a bit of Kreol. Moi kan caus em ti pe Kreol mais pas beaucoup. I know a lot of the oldies but goldies of Seychelles songs though, and still sing them in the shower! I remember the taste of jamalak and frisitere and santol. If I got the spelling wrong - sorry. Lovely memories of the old Seychelles. Smile

Stewie · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 106

Dreamer, welcome to AKS mon vieux!
Don't dream the dream....live the dream!...go back to Seychelles...!

How did this song go;...a thousand miles from anywhere, in the middle of an ocean...lies the pearl of the ocean...Seychelles my native land....

I hope you will share your wonderful knowledge and memories of ancient days of Seychelles as far back as you will remember to all of us AKSians!

Bienvenue mon ami! Smile

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Lipou · Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 128 Location: Hackney. UK

Yes it is quite funny how today's Seychellois back home speak english in their everyday conversation. Some of it is showing off, I have to say. When I was back home last year, I couldnt stop smilling when people were being interviewed by the SBC journalists. They think english makes them sound intelligent. This guy was being interviewed and he said "Nou bann product i plizoumwen sorti abroad. Nou pe komans bann training programmes pou nou bann employees very soon e sa in the long run a benefit nou lekonomi."

And you should have seen the hand gesture too. I think they get that from Danny Faure, who go it in Cuba. (demenn mwan vomi foutou. Sa msye Faure.)

But for someone who lives abroad I sometimes sneak a english word in sometimes as I speak english in work and to everybody I see apart from when I ring home. Some words dont sound right sometimes if you are use to english. For example, in english if something or someone scares you, you say "I am shitting myself" but it doesnt litterally means that you are actually having a dump in ur underwear. But if you start a sentence with "zwer, monn pez en bouton lo konmputer dan travay e lafimen pe monte, mon pe ....... normally you will say..... I am shitting myself but to carry on that sentence and to say mon pe kaka dan mon kanson Tessa sounds rude.

Or is it just me?

Spook · Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 531 Location: Seychelles

Lipou said: